Started playing at 16 now 69yrs old 1st one ever. I have witnessed 5 some by players I can beat by 15 or better.My playing partner has 7, two this yr alone. I was at Squirrel Run Golf Course Plymouth MA 8th hole card reads 170 yds but was playing 147 teed up my Titleist pro V 1 took 7 iron green had pitch landed pin high on fringe rolled down about 15 ft into cup. Worth the wait️